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Dark Elven Ambush by The-Wandering-Ranger Dark Elven Ambush by The-Wandering-Ranger
Criticism encouraged.

full veiw please.
I wont lie and say this was quick, because it took me ages lol.

my wandering ranger, is in a dark elf village and is ambushed by an angry looking bunch.

I decided to leave colour out of this, mainly because 95% of everything there is grey or black anyway.

I'm happy with the main guy in the middle, but all the other didn't come out as I wanted. I really struggled with the hands, but more-so, the limbs. People always take me ages, hence why this one took me longer than the others.

The building at the back is supposed to be an arena by the way, I originally drew it with the open top visable and round, but that didn't work at all.

What do you think, I really want to know how to improve for my next one, (which I've already got in my head!)

Thanks for looking! :)
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:iconelkenar:
Elkenar Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2008  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
That's cool! I like it how there's so many details, and the weapons are pretty. There could be a little bit more contrast, but I know it's quite a hard piece, I have always the same problem with my pencil works.
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The-Wandering-Ranger Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2008  Hobbyist
thank you very much :)
about the contrast, I know what you mean, but I'm going to blame it on the pencil :D
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Elkenar Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2008  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
You're welcome. Okay :D
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resada Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2007
This is really very good. You put in a lot of nice detail.
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The-Wandering-Ranger Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2007  Hobbyist
thanks! it means a lot to me!
:love:
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InShinFrog Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2007  Hobbyist Photographer
Well I cant draw for anything, I think the lamp you did was great, maybe drawings that DONT include people will be your strong point, I do remember people telling me to draw everything in circles to get size and stuff right, each section of the limb, draw an oval first of about the right size and position.... I was so bad I couldn't even draw the oval.... but anyhooooooo there are some good books on basic technique out there that you might wanna keep an eye open for....christmas is coming ;) ...and just keep doing what feels good :D
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The-Wandering-Ranger Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2007  Hobbyist
you read my mind about the books ;)
I would stick to no people, but unfortunately, it's quite difficult to make interesting pictures without them, well, that's not true but you know what I mean. I need to practice anyway, and I'm sure I'll get better.
thanks for the comment!
:)
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InShinFrog Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2007  Hobbyist Photographer
lol no problem, you seem like you really are interested in learning so I hope you find something that helps. :hug:
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The-Wandering-Ranger Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2007  Hobbyist
thanks :)
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artstarter Featured By Owner Nov 17, 2007  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Your drawings will improve with practice. Taking this work for example...the figures all look to me like they are lying out on a checkered carpet. In a battle scene the figures would all be overlapping each other and many parts would be invisible to our view. The buildings could be obscured by the people in front of them so you would only see a part of the structure. You are giving us all the information instead of leaving some things to the imagination. (I hope I am making myself clear.) By making the front people bigger than the back people (slightly) you would achieve a deeper perspective in your drawing. You are doing well so far and its obvious you put a lot of effort into your work. Keep it up. :hug:
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The-Wandering-Ranger Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2007  Hobbyist
yeah, I guess I was just taking the easy way out. As I get better at the basics I'll pay extra attention to this sort if stuff.
I tried to make the front guy bigger and the back woman smaller, but now that I look at it, I didn't really do it that much.

again thanks for the advice, and I appreciate you commenting on my drawings as it means far more to me than on the photos :)
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artstarter Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2007  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I know what you mean. Our artworks are so personal and come from within us and its like a great compliment on us personally, whereas our photos are more a gift from without. Still your photos are very lovely to look at.
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artstarter Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2007  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I would hate to discourage you, because you are going so well. Don't ever get disheartened, just do what I do and keep experimenting with different positions, textures, shapes and sizes. Even Leonardo Da Vinci did many little sketchy drawings that he never intended anyone else to see. Keep them in a folder so you can look back and see how far you have come. Good luck.
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UsefullIdiot Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2007
Great job, i never seen someone so young have such a pacience, not even I have :x . You have a very soft line, dont be afraid to put more strenght into the pencil, specialy when doing shadows.
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The-Wandering-Ranger Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2007  Hobbyist
thankyou so much!
I'm suprised to hear that, because by the end thing, I press on very hard, maybe it's my pencil...
and on top of that I upped the contrast on photoshop a little too.
:):)
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rltan888 Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2007
this is pretty detailed for a beginner
everything looked pretty clean and not very bloodish violent until I saw the head on a stick.....interesting
Good Work! Keep practicing!
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The-Wandering-Ranger Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2007  Hobbyist
thank you so much for taking the time to comment, it means a lot! :)
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rltan888 Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2007
np
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derekmccrea Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2007
I like this one the most.
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The-Wandering-Ranger Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2007  Hobbyist
me too, I'm glad you think so and thankyou very much for the comment
:)
:)
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AlysaTaladay Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2007  Hobbyist General Artist
Hey, not bad! I always hated drawing scenery. Even now, still not one of my favorite things to do 'cause I'm not very good at it.
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The-Wandering-Ranger Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2007  Hobbyist
Thanks a lot! :)
well the background was the easy and quick part, it's how people look that I find damn hard! :)
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AlysaTaladay Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2007  Hobbyist General Artist
HA! I won't even go into the fights I've had with human figures. I will say this, though: bookstores and libraries are wonderful places.
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The-Wandering-Ranger Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2007  Hobbyist
yeah, lol. this place helps me a lot though
:)
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flamekaat Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2007
My people are dreadful but I can tell you one thing that might improve your limbs and hands. It's like this...Think about yourself while you draw people. Heck, stand up and lower your arms to your sides have photographs of you or other humans. Hominoid(Polittically correct way of saying Humanoid) drawings are some of the most proportional based drawings besides buildings. Perspective and proportion are very very important and yes you are right your limbs are off because they lack both things. One last hint, JOINTS knees and elbows and knuckles and stuff, slick anime limbs don't work when you start out they are in fact harder then real people body parts. Placing the joints will also help you with proportional issues and point of view problems.
Don't get hurt feelings, just trying to help here:)
Much Love and Keep Working! ~Flamekaat
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The-Wandering-Ranger Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2007  Hobbyist
don't worry, I didnt put criticism encouraged on it for no reason. I thank you for your advice. :)
I do infact have as many images of people, and other stuff to help my drawing; but to be honest, half of it I'm using to see what's on them and stuff instead of the postion of their limbs. For the hands I try to hold this old sword I got, to see how the hand postions are. but it's very hard to look at yourself from an oposite view.

again, thankyou :)
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Elfnik Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2007
Oh btw thank 10000 times for the 1st fav :))
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Elfnik Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2007
Maaan this must take u ages ^^
The only thing u should keep in mind when u draw somethink like this, is the distance...
Great job (and tough too)!!!
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The-Wandering-Ranger Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2007  Hobbyist
thanks for the comment
but how do you mean distance, perspective? I did try to bear it in mind, but the things were hard enough without havig to worry about size, lol.
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Elfnik Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2007
Well...yes..i'm talking about perspective....I don't know how to explain exactly...but, if u living in a building on few floors...try to watch the street, people, cars, trees etc etc, those near u and those in the distance...and try to paint / draw em exactly as u see em...I think that could help You!
I hope this will help u :))
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The-Wandering-Ranger Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2007  Hobbyist
thanks for the advice
I dont live high up but I can still use what you're saying.
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Elfnik Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2007
No problem :))
Im glad that I can help u :)
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Ravenhaven Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2007
Very nice!
You have to view this on full view mode to appreciate it. :)
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The-Wandering-Ranger Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2007  Hobbyist
thanks for the comment so soon, glad you like it!
:hug:
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Ravenhaven Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2007
You are welcome my friend!:)
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